Its a simple question. We know Milan were the Kings of Europe. I just wanna ask. If Liverpool were not banned from Europe , would they have dominated Europe into the 90's. Did that expulsion have an effect on perhaps one of the greatest team of the 80's decade.
In 82. I was in nursery school. My uncle was an avid Notts Forest Fan. We had Shoots and Match magazines everywhere. My Aunt from UK sent me my first Liverpool jersey. The Crown Paints one. And I cherished it. Wore it for training to when I started playing ball for Tigers...And Rush was my hero. He was clinical. The whole Liverpool team of the 80's were awesome. I remember my cassette I got from the UK. "LIVERPOOL , TEAM OF THE DECADE". I grew up watching these players. Grobbelaar, Phil Neal, Hansen, Lawrenson, Dalglish, Rush, Jhonstone, Souness, Whealan, The Kennedy Brothers. Pure Class. If we go earlier, players like Toshak, Keegan, Highway, Mcdermot, Hughes, ..Class. What Im saying was that Shankly built a legacy which Souness f#4ked up after Dalglish retired .
Liverpool were winning everything in the 80s. Here are their accolades in the 80's
Winners (7): 1986, 1989,
Runners-up (6): 1988
Winners (7): 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984,
Runners-up (3): 1987
FA Charity Shield / FA Community Shield , 1980, 1982, 1986 (shared), 1988, 1989,
Runners-up (6): 1983, 1984,
Winners (1): 1986
Winners (5): 1981, 1984
Runners-up (2): 1985,
UEFA Super Cup
Runners-up (2): 1984
Intercontinental Cup and FIFA Club World Cup
Runners-up (3): 1981, 1984,
I got a comment from Cisse who supports both Liverpool and Milan and asked him the same question.Here was his response
"With the team that they had when they were banned they would have probably dominated in Europe.In those days only the League winners were allowed to play in the Eurpean Cup and after playing in the '84 final against Roma and the '85 final aginst Juventus ( after which they got banned ) they won the League in '85/'86 , '87/'88 & '89/90 . They would have probably been in another 3 finals and if they won all of them including the '05 Final LFC would have had 8 Cups , still behind Madrid and the most successfull Team in the World......MILAN."
"The great Ruud Gullit nce made a statement that the only reason why Milan were so successful in the late '80's was because Liverpool FC were banned in Europe."-Cisse
I also got some input and an article from Shakes, an avid Milan fan, about AC MILANS dominace in football, baring in mind that Milan were the late 80's and carried it through to the 90's
Milan were only starting out in 1987 having been bought the previous year by Silvio Berlusconi. In 1987 Arigo Sacchi took charge and began building arguably the greatest team of that era. In came Carlo Ancelotti, Ruud Gullit and Marco van Basten and a year later he brought in Frank Rijkaard in my opinion the finest all round midfielder of his generation and also the classy Demitrio Albertini.Milan brought a new style to Italian football under Sacchi, not the typical sound defensive play that the Italians are renowned for, but a free flowing attacking team that was a joy to watch and where creativity and brilliance was allowed to thrive rather than being suppressed. Milan still are till today the most attack minded Italian team. What made Milan so successfull in Italy and beyond was a system that most teams struggled to live with. Most Italian teams play very defensive with even the midfield players marking their counterparts to stifle play and hit on the counter. Milan caused havoc in a system that allowed even the full backs Maldini and Tasotti to venture forward. With no clear wingers, Donadoni and Gullit would start out in the wide positions but would be all over the place pulling players with them, creating space for Tasotti and Maldini out wide and with the finest midfield paring in Rijkaard and Albertini who could interchange as the holding midfielder created havoc with the oppoisition. And with probably the greatest centre back of that era Baresi cleaning up behind them we were difficult to get behind. We never really had a world class keeper and that was more down to the fact that our keeper was rarely tested. The reason that throughout the late 80's and early 90's Milan's number 1 was never Italy's number 1 as the national never coach felt he had proved himself enough. The best teams in Europe had a go at us and failed. I remeber a 5-0 1989 semi final victory over Real Madrid after a 1-1 draw in the 1st leg. We went on to beat Steua Bucharest 4-0 in the final with 2 goals each from Gullit and van Basten. We had the greatest players in almost every position. Three of our defensive unit were automatic choices for the Azurri. Tasotti, Maldini and Baresi. Albertini was the cornerstone of the Italian team midfield. Van Basten was the most complete and deadliest striker of his generation and Gullit the most skillfull and creative player on his day. Rijkaard like I said to me was the most complete midfielder of his era. These three players were pivotal to Holland's Euro 88 success. Milan of the late 80's and early to mid 90's were undoubtedly the greatest team, in terms of success and also the style of play. The undefeated season of 1991/92 is testament to that as not only were we unbeaten but scored a total of 74 goals in 34 games thats and average of 2 goals a game conceding only 21. Compared to the next highest scorers that season, 4th placed Napoli had 56 goals while 2nd placed Juve only managed 45 in 34 games.From 1987 to 1996 they won a total of 5 Scudetti, 3 European Cup/ Uefa Champions League titles, 2 European Super Cups and 2 World Club titles. We also hold the record of having won the most officially recognised international titles by any club.
Come what may, and if Liverpool were not banned, Milan and Liverpool are European greats, I enjoyed that Juve spell in the mid 90's but as lities we only new Milan and Liverpool.
Surprisingly enough in 2005 and 2007, these greats finally met up and its 1 apiece.
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Tottenham Hotspur, A great club, great wepaar and vaarsoh, great tradition. I remember in my days ven I devised the Masterplan for Pele, Bobby Moore, Sylvester Stallone and Ozvaldo Ardilles to escape in ESCAPE TO VICTORY. Ardilles and Ricky Villa were two Argentines that will forever be remembered at White Hart Lane. But two things, Vy did Spurs get rid of Martin JOL. And how cud dey sell the two players that scored all their goals. Keane and Berbatov. See dat vy I dont undertsand vy these clubs wit so much tradition get MUGGS to manage the club. Dey must bring calibre. Vat about Terry Venables, Sven. Dese are big boys. Next ting you will hear is that Santana is manager of Newcastle. Dey must look at ouver country and take pointers and lessons. 2010 is the focus on vorld and dey cant see that. Ramos has sold Berbatov and Keane, brought in Modric, Pavlachenko and Bently. He has two lanky strikers upfront, Dat Russian owe plays like he just deh fro Rokrah. Vat has happened to this great team. Dey must get rid of Ramos immediately. Give me da job. Spurs ver full of greats and legends. Now dey cant win. Ramos is my MUGG of VEEK, for F#4king great team like Tottenham Hotspurs up. Mary remember Steve Archibald....He must be turning in his bed
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