THE BLOG IS NOW OPEN FOR WAR
This is the third year of the Jihad Abus vs Alis.
Twice a year or maybe more my Blog becomes a war Zone. Lets start with definitions: ABU=Anyone but Utd
The world has seen Sugar Ray vs Marvin Hagler, Real Madrid vs Barcelona, River vs Boca, Chiefs vs Pirates,Britney vs Christina, SA vs Austrailia, Mclaren vs Ferari,Hugh Hefner vs Larry Flint......But Liverpool vs Man Utd is a contest like no other
I bring back the speech Ive used before in other Jihad posts. The inspirational speech from William Wallace in Braveheart
"Sons & Daughters of the Blog . I am Naseem "Swoosh" Mayet. And what I see before me is an amy of my members from the KOP. You have come as Free Men & Women , and Free Men & Women you are. But What will you do with that Freedom?Aye, Play and you may win, Lose and You will live, At least for a while. Then die'ing in your beds many years from now. Will you be willing to trade all the days from this day to that for just ONE CHANCE ,ONE.....And you may tell the Man Utd Muggs, That they will come to Anfield BUT THEY WILL NEVER TAKE OUR IZZET,IZZET,IZZET, IZZET,IZZET,IZZET."(DIGNITY)
As I said earlier they will never rob us in our own back yard. And they didnt. Now we make the hallowed trip to Old Trafford, a cathedral if you may call it. We will make the trip after hosting Madrid and whats more important in this Jihad is that the TITLE RACE will split our way if we beat the MANCS.
This is the one time that everybody and I mean Everybody goes to war on this Blog. Last time we hit 86 comments. Chicks were told to fry Samoosas and not share their input on ball. This is the one time that Any thing goes on the Blog, beside racism and religeon. So the Jihad: Abus vs Ali's will be upon us again. I urge every member of the Kop to wield their swords and step on the batllefield. Post you comments. Join the Fight. This is what its all about you Utd Muggs. This is the time when we place friendship aside and put Izzet(Dignity) in Front. For the Arsenal supporters they are like the Irish, You can never trust them on which side they'll be On.So Join the Fight, For the Babes Stand your ground, Post your comments please against these sexist owes. Show that your opinion counts. And Everybody join the bloodshed , Spill some Blood and leave a comment.This is the time that we PUNISH MAN UTD on this Blog. This is the time that we show them that referees are always not on their side. This is the time that we show them They will never steal victory in stoppage time. This is the time we bury them.
Swoosh. Proud member of the Abus and Anti Utd.
You Will Never Walk Alone Liverpool Fans.This is a time when we fight till the end, Where Color, Religion and race doesnt matter. Where you will watch the back of the next man as he will watch yours. Whatever happens come Saturday I will be the first to enter the field of battle and I will be the last man to leave and WE WILL LEAVE NO MAN BEHIND
ITS ABOUT THE TITLE ,ITS ABOUT THE IZZET.
Here is an interesting article that I found on the web. Its abour what we are disussing. Why do liverpool hate Man Utd so much and vice versa
Writer ‘Liverpool Red Diary’
Why do Liverpool hate Manchester United so much? Feel free to riff away, and don’t worry if it seems too obvious / regional.The Liverpool-Manchester rivalry precedes football, to such an extent that there was even a debate on local television a few years ago detailing the origins of the mutual dislike, which got fairly heated to say the least. Whilst there are some very evident social connotations though, much of the current hatred however stems purely from football.
Historically Man United are a big club, and won the European cup before us in ’68 an achievement they held gleefully over us until we won it ourselves in 1977, which we did under the guidance of the legendary Paisley. In nine years as Liverpool manager Paisley won three European cups, one super cup, six titles and three domestic cups, and yet did not get the recognition he deserved. But then again he was the Liverpool manager so why would he? Preceded by the legendary Shankly, who revolutionised Liverpool, and succeeded by Fagan who clinched the treble in his first season, Liverpool went on to become the greatest club in England. Following this Fagan’s successor King Kenny Dalglish took over and won the double in his first season, illustrating what we all know - Liverpool unlike no other English club is a dynasty. Liverpool have never been about one season or one manager, but instead our ethos is simple - ‘consistent success’. We never hark on about a one-off achievements like United do with their treble of ’99.
Regularity of accomplishment has always been our philosophy.Our record of eight trophies in eleven years in the ‘70s and ‘80s was equalled by ‘them’ under Ferguson last season. And yet when we achieved this fete, we also won five European trophies in that time, whilst United by comparison could manage only the one final. And yet was this isolated achievement recognised? A swift knighthood for Ferguson following his solitary European cup, thanking him for making football interesting for non-Liverpudlians once again answers that question. It is not United’s achievements, for they are lesser than ours, but the fact that our more impressive trophy haul has and always will be overlooked, which forms the bulk of our loathing for Man United, who just happen to be number two and the darling of the media.But whilst we hate ‘them’, our position as Britain’s most successful club, with eighteen championships and seven European trophies means their hatred for us is far stronger.
Consequently these days our annual visits to Old Trafford are never quiet affairs, as Liverpool FC Vs Manunitedplc.com/nike/thetreble/scouseobsession/1969-1992didnotexist(clubdefootball) games are invariably heated encounters. But I’m sure every home supporter packed into the theatre of commercialism when Liverpool are in town, at least the fifteen thousand Mancunians who follow United instead of Man City, who understand the rivalry, hate us with a passion we don’t share. Not at least, to anything like the same degree.
2. The rivalry’s got worse over the last decade or two. What happened? Was there a specific turning point?With United’s recent success they think that our record of eighteen championships is in their sights now, intensifying the rivalry. In 1992 we had won twice as many titles as our nearest rivals, who were Everton with nine. United had won only seven, and saw no hope of ever catching us. Our abysmal form over the last decade under Souness and Evans though, coupled with United’s resurgence has meant we are now more aware of Man United on a football level. The Liverpool fan’s lack of faith at the current regime under Houllier has done little to relieve this tension, and as such I would not be surprised to see it worsen. There was no specific match you could pin the intensification of the enmity upon. United’s recent title wining streak, together with the fact that we are, despite this run, still well ahead in the trophy stakes is the reason for the current rivalry, which is unparalleled in this country and always will be.
3. How much of it is down to the level of success enjoyed by each club? Are Liverpool fans more bitter now? Were United fans more bitter then?In the current climate, the rivalry relates almost entirely to the level of success, simply because the honours list of the two teams is more similar than it once was. With United having caught up to an extent, and Liverpool having not won the title since the early nineties, relations have soured somewhat from the Liverpudlian perspective. However although it is not unreciprocated, United fans have always been more bitter towards Liverpool fans. They have been raised as supporters of a big club, though one that is inferior to one (in particular) foe - Liverpool. We on the other hand have won eighteen titles and four European Cups - we are there to be worried about, not the other way around.
4. Can you see things ever changing for the better or will it get worse and worse?There will never be good relations between fans of the two clubs, irrespective of events on and off the field. It’s just one of those things you have to accept in life, something that has been and always will be passed on through the generations. Other rivalries will come and go for both clubs, but as for Manchester and Liverpool, we hate them and they hate us, and this will always be the case.
5. What’s the nadir of the relationship? The worst behaviour of the United fans/the thing LFC fans have done that’s most embarrassed you.Whilst there are several distinct dissimilarities between the two clubs, we also share many common characteristics, notably we have each experienced major disasters; the 1958 Munich air disaster in which nineteen people perished including eight members of Man United’s squad, and the 1989 Hillsborough disaster, in which 96 Liverpool fans lost their lives. The more bitter elements of both clubs have countless songs celebrating both disasters. Both parties express such sentiment more frequently than many would believe, and have an array of chants that neither fan base should be proud of. Nothing could be any worse than that, and this is the type of factor that renders the Liverpool-Manchester rivalry more intense than any other in the country.
6. Particularly amusing anecdote/joke/chant?Even with our famous witty vocal support, we do much of our talking (at least the printable, tasteful sort) through our world famous banners. The ‘Don’t bomb Iraq nuke Manchester’ flag and the ‘Hillman is a Scouser’ banner (the latter in relation to the Mancunican-slaying character from Coronation St), displayed at the league cup final last year, were but two examples of typical Scouse humour, which is bettered by none. Our banner ‘Forever in our shadow’ is another, which says it all. We have won more trophies than United, and whatever is said between fans of the two sides, it is always only a matter of time before the conversation relates back to the contents of the respective trophy cabinets. It is a football rivalry after all.
7. Mancunians and Scousers get on otherwise though, right?With the cities situated just thirty miles apart, and yet the inhabitants of both clearly displaying very different attitudes on life, the social connotations are always evident in the rivalry. Liverpudlians are immediately recognisable due to their distinct accent and dress sense, especially to Mancunians who can smell a Scouser a mile off. Consequently any trip to Manchester, even a simple shopping excursion could well prove problematic. I go there twice a year, Man United away and Man City away - and that’s my lot.
© Joel Rookwood 2004
FROM THE SHOOBS CORNER
ALL THE WAY FROM THE UK
The Big One – Man United vs Liverpool So it’s the big one this weekend and since Swoosh has allowed for “war” on the blog, I’m going to call it as it is … United all the way !!! It also seems that I’m not the only one calling the result United’s way, but most of the English press and football pundits as well. The rivalry between United and the Scum is without doubt the most intense in the sports world to date and every Scouse bastard making the journey east to Old Trafford this weekend knows that this rivalry is no stranger to producing blood and broken bones. The Scouse firms have held their own for a long while but much like their football club, their glory days are long over and the Scouse to Manc injury ratio is significantly in favour of the Mancs (for the scouse okes trying to work out what that means, for long time now, the Red army have been kicking the shit out of the Scouse lads home and away).
Football firms and fighting aside, this weekends fixture is the biggest in the EPL and with a six point swing on the cards anyone that knows even a little bit about football knows this is the match of the season. A win for United virtually guarantees them a third successive Prem title and more importantly puts them on par with Liverpool with the number of league crowns (and makes it very difficult for the Scum to claim to be the most successful club in England), a win for the Scum keeps their withering title hopes alive for a while longer … The questions begs to be asked … Who’s going to take it? The answer, irrespective of the club you support, is an obvious one … Man United. Man United will trounce Liverpool, this certain for a number of reasons, the most important and obvious being:1. Unlike Liverpool, Man United is a team of collective brilliance and do not depend on just three players. Liverpool are nothing without Stevie G, Carragher and Torres. I can already hear the ABU’s going on about Ronaldo and how United supposedly depend on him. To you fuckers I say, what about Wayne Rooney, Rio Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra, Giggs, Berbatov, Carrick, Scholes, V d Sar … oh look at that, the entire United core is pure class. We’ve shown time and again this season that we can play and win without Rooney, Ronaldo, Rio …
2. United’s depth is far superior to that of Liverpool. Our fringe players can step up and take the game to Liverpool or any other club for that matter. Players like Pak can step up and do the job just as well as any of the Pool players and with the impending CL fixtures this is a handy card to have up your sleeve.3. The Gaffers – any which way you look at it, Rafa is not half the manager Sir Alex is. He will come in to this fixture without having a clue. He’s already made it obvious to the entire world that he cracks under a minimal amount of pressure from Ferguson and quite simply doesn’t have the balls to go toe to toe with the greatest manager English football has ever known.4. Current form – Every fixture United go into it is expected, not only by supporters and media, but the opposing team as well that United will emerge victorious after the final whistle has blown. Teams are playing for draw against United this season and are happy to take a point from them … it is the complete opposite with Liverpool. No teams fear them and even the most hardcore of scouse lads is never certain of 3 points before a Liverpool kick off.5. Lastly, Liverpool do not deserve victory at Old Trafford. They’ve been a mediocre team throughout the season and are lucky to be even in remote contention for the title. If Villa had to take three points off us this season, it wouldn’t be a travesty but IF (by some sort of miracle) Liverpool were to walk away from Old Trafford with 3 points (or even 1), it would an injustice United supporters and football.
There you have it, no scouse can intelligently argue why Liverpool should be victorious this weekend. All you ABUs know that bottom line, we are living in the Man United era of football and your only chance of taking anything away from Old Trafford this weekend will have to come in the form of luck. I can understand and appreciate support for your club, but you have to honest and call a spade a spade, Liverpool don’t deserve anything and won’t come away with anything from Old Trafford aside from bruised egos and yet another year of miserable disappointment
– GLORY, GLORY MAN UNITED
Video's showing what the rivalry is all about
Amidst the passion , this link was sent to me by a MANC Fan , He says when this song plays at old trafford, your hair stands on your back
DONT CLOSE THE DARWAJOH (Door)
By Uncle Bhai Ghora
Vat is Izzet. Izzet is the gujrati vord for pride and make no mistake dat Sundays game is about Pride. In this case its an important game in title chase but ven dese two teams meet.its pride at stake. And Saturday is about pride. How many times in my lifetime I see people fighting over dis rivalry. Gori Ma cam out vith Velan vun day ven her son and grandson ver fiting. Similarly Svoosh always mention da OIL SUMP incident ven his cousin took da car after he fought vid his Liverpool father. In his sorrow he hit the car and broke oil sump. Den deh vas uncle who fought at AKALS. Eventually Akalwaya brothers had to calm him down, give him some chips and vater and say its just a game. Den deh vas uncle whou made a scene at vedding house over UTD and Liverpool. Family nearly ended up fighting beacuse of two fans in da lounge. Den dehs Svoosh's connection in UK, I believe if you visit him , you cant enter his house vid a MAN UTD or other team jersey. He tells you to f@#4k off. He vas famous for throwing his TV on da road ven Liverpool lost against Arsenal in 88-89..
Its all about pride and if any lady or person says dat people are mad and men cant ca rry on like dis for soccer, den go fry some bajyas or go make achaar. Dis in not your place. It goes further. Deh vas a owe in Lenz dat said ven he dies he vants to be buried in a MAN UTD KIT in his Coffin, Den deh vas owe dat said dat he will stop sex vid his vife if Liverpool and Man utd game vas on ,on his first night. Its BIGGG people. And whoever vins vill gloat on Sunday and all da kits vill cum out.
UBG, OVER AND OUT
DO YOU BELIEVE IN GHOSTS?
"It was the loss of blessed youth that so grieved the world. Byrne, Pegg, Taylor, Edwards, Colman, Whelan, Jones and the reserve full-back Geoff Bent, all died along with 15 others.
That Manchester United rebuilt from this wreckage, to win the European Cup 10 years later, is lore, arguably English football's greatest story. Murphy had not travelled to Belgrade because he was managing Wales and, when he visited the injured in the Munich hospital, Busby groaned to him: "Keep the flag flying, Jimmy."
For me since the blog started the only real success I have tasted was when Italy won the World Cup in 2006. Apart from that I have endured constant torment as the MANCS whom most of you know about my hatred for them have dominated the proceedings. We can go on about luck, bad decisions, Theft and scoring at the death, escaping with points time after time. But what lurks at Old Trafford. The words of that one fan always ring through my head. That on a night at Old Trafford the Ghosts of Munich come down. I mean how many times have the MANCS pulled things off, in stoppage time.Lets go back again to Nou Camp in 1999. Which team wins the European Cup in that fashion. The Fan said " You may have seen 11 players on the field, but there were 20. Duncan Edwards, Tommy Taylor in attack, Charlton in midfield. ALL THE MUNICH BOYS WERE THERE.
I often ask myself, that the more we hate them, the more they pull things off. Were the Ghosts there to make John Terry Slip. Again the MANCS clinched it in dramatic fashion. In 1996 I visited Old Trafford and we met a Man Utd Fan. I asked him how is this stadium and atmosphere at night. He said "Lad when you sit at OLD TRAFFORD, YOU FEEL A PRESENCE AROUND YOU THAT MAKES YOU SHIVER. YOU FEEL AS IF YOU ARE BEING WATCHED OVER. Call him superstitious or a man that believes in the super natural, But I say again Was IT THE GHOSTS THAT decended down and helped Manchester UTD win EUROPE TWICE from the death, and grab victory at the death always. As Jack Palance used to say in his scary voice. "BELIEVE IT OR NOT"
Watch this video and listen to what this fan says. Ghosts I ask you?
THE RETURN OF THE LAAL CHAVEL
United V Liverpool
BUILD UP This game holds little significance cos the league is virtually wrapped up. It’s about Pride. If the LFC pull off an upset, you bet KOP fans will put up a reward for the Arsenal who still need to come to the Theatre to do the same. That’s how desperate these scousers are to win their first league title in 19 years. Actually their first ever Premier League title. So much of the outcome of this game will depend on how the midweek champion’s league results turn out. If both United & LFC go through this game will be a HUMDINGER, a thriller!! Lets hope that happens, if either team gets dumped in the champs league the psychological advantage will be immense for the quaterfinalist. Its gonna come down to mental toughness for Liverpool to cope at the Theatre. With Uniteds current form even if you could resurrect Shankly’s greatest team for the clash at the Theater they would be shaking in their chimpils.
TEAMS SAF & Rafa believe in rotation the difference is the former always applies it effectively. It will be intriguing to see if SAF plays Giggs the way he did against Chelsea. I would go for a 4-3-3 with Ron, Carrick & Scholes in the middle. Upfront Giggs just behind Rooney & Berbatov. Rooneys ability to lead the front line, crisp finishing & tactical awareness is bound to bamboozle.
FORM Winning the World Club Cup & League Cup has given this United team unbelievable confidence no matter what the situation, as demonstrated against Newcastle after going a goal down against a very resilient Toon army. Fulham were massacred over the weekend against a RonaldoLESS United, Hodgson described United as unplayable. All the fools that keep saying we’re a one man team get a grip it takes 22 class players to be the current World Champions!! Without Gerrard LFC run around aimlessly, their display against Middleborough was appalling for the so called championship contenders.
However the one thing you cannot take away from the KOP flops is fight, these dudes can pull up their socks when it matters & they can throw some pretty serious blows. But they shouldn’t kid themselves they will be coming to the Theatre to HOLD United!!! A draw will suit them fine since Rafa’s becoming an artist. He still hasn’t signed a new deal, Parry has resigned & the hierarchy at Anfield seems to be crumbling. That said LETS GET IT ON…
Vs Inter (2nd leg)
SAF made a tactical error not starting Rooney in the first leg, we outplayed the Italians in their own backyard but failed to capitalize on some very good chances. If Rooney starts on Wednesday night we gonna see some goals!!
FROM THE KOP END
BY RED FOR LIFE
We have entered the week that could define Liverpools season and also the fate of Rafa Benitez. Liverpool welcome the mighty Real Madrid to Anfield tonight and travel to Old Trafford on Saturday in what could be a crucial game for both Liverpool and Manchester Utd's title aspirations. While many people already say its over I still believe that if we get the 3 points at old Trafford the title race could go down to the wire.Taking a 1 goal lead into the 2nd leg of the Champions League Knockout stage, Real Madrid still have everything to play for. By no means is this tie over. Madrid have the experience and class to snatch the victory out of Liverpools grasp but Rafa's boys will no doubt be up for the fight. In todays press conference Rafa says that he will give Torres every chance of playing against Madrid and would wait until the absolute last minute to make a decision. Gerrard should lead Liverpool out at Anfield in what would be his 100th European appearance for the club. Rafa still has problems with the right back slot as Arbeloa is still missing and after Skrtles dismal performance at right back against Middlebrough he might have to deploy Mascherano who gave a good account of himself against Sunderland in mid-week. Benayoun is out of the clash after a bizzare training ground collission caused him to tear his hamstring so Kuyt should be re-called at right half and Reira on the left with Stevie G playing just behind Torres. This formation has worked well for Rafa in the past and could be the key to beating Madrid.Whatever team Rafa starts with we just have to attack Madrid from the first whistle and who knows what could happen with out "12th" man "The Kop" in full flight Madrid could just get caught cold. This could work in our favour on what should be a very special European night at Anfield.